Episode 21: Exploring the Neurodiverse Mind: ADHD, Psychic Abilities, Aphantasia, and a World of Unlimited Potential

In this episode of "Aphantasia Experiments," we delve into the fascinating world of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and how it impacts communication. Join us as we explore the experiences and insights of individuals living with ADHD and discover the unique perspectives they bring to the table.

Our featured speaker, a highly creative individual with ADHD, takes us on a journey through their personal experiences and reflections. They attribute their actions and behaviors to their ADHD, shedding light on its influence on their ambitions and career choices. Through their story, we gain an understanding of how ADHD can shape priorities, pushing us to strive for success while also longing for satisfaction and fulfillment.

As we delve deeper into the discussion, our speaker shares their ability to persevere, albeit within certain parameters of passion and interest. They unravel how their attention to detail has waned over time, leading them to only excel in subjects or projects that truly capture their engagement. We explore the connection between ADHD, academic prowess, and ways to enhance learning through creative, intuitive experiences.

Guiding us through their unique lens, our speaker emphasizes the importance of respect in communication, expressing their frustration with interruptions during speeches. Freelance work in writing and design becomes a focal point as they seek to channel their bursts of energy and productivity into fulfilling professional opportunities.

As we explore the impact of ADHD medication, we learn how the speaker's experience with Vyvanse has both aided and taxed their cognitive abilities. They share the need for decompression and meditation after exhausting their energy reserves, highlighting the importance of finding balance and revitalization in the face of ADHD's challenges.

But what does ADHD have to do with psychic phenomena and open-mindedness? Our speaker divulges their interest in spirituality, psychic development, and consciousness exploration. They discuss the relationship between creativity, intuition, and ADHD, shedding light on how an open mind can enhance a person's psychic experiences.

Listen closely as our speaker recounts memories of a tarot reader at their baby shower, who astoundingly predicted an eventual breakup with their partner. This event sparked their own exploration of tarot readings, focusing on the positive aspects and embracing the unscripted tangents that often occur.

Throughout the episode, our speaker candidly reflects on the perks and challenges of having ADHD. Moments of interrupted thoughts and lost trains of thought are intertwined with a strong determination to overcome obstacles. They underscore the importance of problem-solving and finding innovative solutions in their daily life, showcasing the boundless energy and unique ideas that ADHD individuals bring to the world.

Join us for this captivating episode of "Aphantasia Experiments" as we delve deeper into the world of ADHD, communication challenges, and the remarkable abilities that come with this unique condition. Tune in to discover a greater understanding of ADHD's influence on creative minds and gain valuable insights into enhancing communication in our everyday lives.

Transcript:

Speaker A [00:00:00]: Hello, and welcome to another episode of the psychic school podcast as well as Aphantasia experiments. today, I'm not going to be walking while I talk or doing a dice reading. I am going to do more of a specific episode. want to talk bit about ADHD. I've mentioned before on this this podcast that I have ADHD. have I've been diagnosed with ADHD? Yes. My family physician, like my family doctor, diagnosed me, but didn't go through rigorous testing where I went to see a psychologist, a psychiatrist, or do any sort of, like, educational testing. I did get diagnosed diagnosed as a child. I actually was diagnosed when my son, who I believe was 7 at the time or 6, 7, Speaker B [00:00:50]: I don't know. He went for his psycho, psycho educational assessment. And Speaker A [00:00:56]: through the testing with the family doctor as well, there was a, questionnaire that my husband kinda looked Speaker B [00:01:04]: at and was like, this some Speaker A [00:01:05]: of this sounds like you. And I Speaker B [00:01:08]: was like, yeah. And so that's kinda how Speaker A [00:01:11]: I got diagnosed. I I reached out to my doctor and said, you know, there's a lot of things on here that I resonate and, Fletcher if it's hereditary, and we definitely have it in my family. I would like to explore options on how to treat it. So I this is probably 2 years ago. I tried some medication. I went on Concerta, which is like a type a ADHD medication. It definitely made me super anxious, focused, but anxious. and then I went on Vyvanse, and that was much better for me, but I do not take it regular I only take it. I truly only take it because I am actually very good at focusing, and I'll go through this with you on the podcast. I have no problem thing, if I'm interested in something. So before before I left my last job, I would and take it if Speaker B [00:02:07]: I knew I had to do, Speaker A [00:02:08]: like, royalty statements or, financial stuff very, like, Excel stuff that I had to, like, sit Speaker B [00:02:16]: on a computer and stare at a screen. And it was Speaker A [00:02:18]: like a lot of numbers and not a lot of, like, the normal stuff that I would do. Like, I'm a very creative person. So when I had to do more like analytical stuff, I would pop a Vyvanse, and and this is like I this is not my medical advice. Please don't take this as a medical advice. I'm just explaining, like, my situation and how, yeah, my evolution of ADHD. So I would take this. and sometimes I would go, like, the whole week, and I would take one every day of the week. And what I found was, like, a, it would make I would totally lose my appetite so that, like, contributed to some weight loss. but also just like feeling crummy. So that didn't help. And I think for me, I would the medication what it did to me, it it's like it took away my impulse to do something more creative. So, you know, I mean, at my job, I had to do a lot of different tasks. But the things that I wanted to do, I could sit there 12 hours and not move. And it would be super beneficial, but then there was days that I had to do stuff that I hated. and to get me that same, like, motivational strength, I would have to take a Vyvanse to, like, stay focused So a lot of people with ADHD, especially female adults, they don't have problems focusing on stuff that they are passionate about or feel connected to in some way, but if it's something that's just out of their element, often that's when you're gonna see, like, the focus and the, squarliness. so I'm gonna go through just some some stuff that I've done some research on, how ADHD shows up for adults. Especially adult females. I've actually had, like, 3 or 4 Speaker B [00:04:11]: people email me about this. Speaker A [00:04:12]: So I thought, okay. This is definitely a subject I wanna tackle. and I do. I am very curious. So if you're listening to this and you have Fantasia. I would love to hear from you if you have ADHD if you've been diagnosed, and what that looks like for you because I think there's lot of things we don't necessarily know about and don't always talk about. Speaker B [00:04:35]: so, yeah, Speaker A [00:04:37]: for me, personally, I truly believe, and I'm not just saying this as, like, something people say because it makes them feel better. I believe, like, with full certainty that my ADHD, if that's what I have, is a superpower. all of the all of the pieces behind it, contribute to me to being, like, a super creative and intuitive person and, I love that about myself. I love all the things about me that are basically ADHD characteristic. So the one thing I don't love is I'm not very good at keeping my closet organized or, like, my art supplies. Speaker B [00:05:20]: other than that, I don't know. I'm alright. Not to, like, Speaker A [00:05:25]: toot my own horn, but I like myself, and you should too. So here we go. Here's a list of 20 different characteristics, and then I will loop into, like, Speaker B [00:05:34]: Aphantasia and, intuition and stuff Speaker A [00:05:37]: as I go through this as well, because I think there is a correlation. so, hyper focus. So people with ADA she have the ability to deeply engage in tests of interest, often resulting in impressive productivity and creativity. So that's, like, completely what I was saying for. And this is like my son. My son has ADHD. He's 9, but he presents himself in a different way, definitely different than than me, but if he gets into a project or, I don't know. He he researches things, and I do this thing. Like, I I'm always exploring consciousness, and it's like, I get obsessed with it and I can't stop researching. And I definitely have. I'm very creative, and I have ideas all the time. And if I'm interested in it in something, I can sit on a computer or something or whatever for long periods of time without needing to come up for air, basically. But, because I have lots of kids. I I get easily distracted and disrupted. And, this might be part another one I list later, but that is something that I I struggle with is when I'm in that zone. And I wanna focus and wanna, like, I'm super into whatever I'm learning about or whatever task I'm engaged in and I Speaker B [00:06:56]: get interrupted, it pisses off. I Speaker A [00:07:00]: get annoyed. and this was, like, a special especially difficult when it was, like, COVID time and all my kids were home and my husband's a teacher. He works from home, and he would just wanna, like, chit chat during the day. I'm like, I am in the zone answering 400 emails. I need to stay in that zone to keep going in this zone. Don't take me out of the zone. So, like, coming in and out of, like, those kind of creatively inspired. moments, it's hard. So I think it's like I I swear a psychologist told me once that it can take up to, like, 20 minutes to get back into that flow again. So think about that before you interrupt someone who looks like hyper focused because it's annoying. It's annoying when you have ADHD or maybe at all if someone interrupts you when you're in that flow. Let people flow. That's my suggestion. next one, innovative problem solving. you talent for thinking outside of the box and finding unique solutions to challenges. But, yeah, absolutely. I am the problem solver, always at my jobs, in my family, I'm always looking at different solutions. and one of my, like, one of my recent dream experience is when I was in Cuba was was, my guide's kinda telling me that that life is about experimenting with with things in her life in and the situations that keep arising over and over again, the purpose is to continuously innovate in problem solving different ways. and I I really do think I'm very good at problem solving. yeah, computer issues that's at work, I would problem So if things I often do like, if something's taking a a strangely long amount of time, instead of in that way, I will spend the time and come up with a solution to make the procedure more efficient. That's that's important to me is to, like, problem solve inefficient in inefficiencies. multitasking skills. I hate I I even hate I don't know. I just don't like multitasking. So I this is on the list here, and I I think it's physically mentally impossible to actually multitask. But I definitely if you look at my computer screen right Speaker B [00:09:24]: now, I think my computer would say, hey. You're multitasking. I'm good as Speaker A [00:09:28]: I have I have my email, my photo drive, my podcast thing. My just, like, so Speaker B [00:09:37]: many things open. don't know, maybe 25 tabs. Speaker A [00:09:40]: And I'm like, most of them I'm actually kinda using right now. So, I guess I multitask and I'm also, like, Speaker B [00:09:48]: I just made my kids lunch, and Speaker A [00:09:49]: I'm gonna be interrupted in 2 seconds. And I'm I am kind of always multitasking, but I don't really like this point because I I kinda like one of my biggest things recently is is being kinda giving in to Speaker B [00:10:04]: the fact that we're only human and Speaker A [00:10:06]: we should only do one thing Speaker B [00:10:07]: at a time and that Speaker A [00:10:08]: I think most of us are going crazy for having to balance more than one thing in time, and and I would really like to simplify life a little for everyone, and understand that we can't actually multitask. It's impossible. So that one I don't fully agree with, but it's on their intuition and insight. I'm like, yes, this is it. I fully believe I have a heightened sense of intuition, which enables me to make connections and see patterns that other will might miss. This is huge. I am the connection, Coleen. I'm able to be like, oh, you met this person there? Well, does he know this person, like, that's a terrible example because that didn't make any sense, but I'm able to, like, connect past events to moments or past people to, like, present moments or, like, recognize someone from, party I met years ago, like, I'm I'm fairly good at, like, making those connections and understanding how important those connections are. I don't know how ADHD that is but, I definitely like connection making those connections are very oh, I'm very good at that and very I love every time I make a connection, it's like, I get this, like, fuzzy feeling inside. You know? I was recently, reminded of the Steve Jobs speech, commencement speech where he talks about, how connections can only be made backwards, not forward, in life. So I watched that the other day. And, that, that resonated with me, but I, I, I also watched it and was like, damn, Steve Job has it ADHD, and I love it, you know. He totally did. so superpower. Like, the people with ADHD is whether the people that that that come up with crazy and have unique ideas and and make the world a super special place. So, okay. Going on intuition and insight. That's the one to set empathy. Boy. That's me for sure. and again, this is, this is me talking about, like, ADHD and adult female specifically, because I don't know if that's the case for, you know, children with age. I think that children with ADHD. I think empathy is something that you learn as you grow more and, with children, especially with children Speaker B [00:12:34]: with ADHD, they have such impulse control Speaker A [00:12:36]: in choose often, not always. It does present in different ways. but, some children with 8 PhD can actually seem like they lack empathy, because they're just like going so fast. Speaker B [00:12:52]: You know what Speaker A [00:12:52]: I mean? I think that empathy is something that you you develop through time and experience. I feel like as a child for me, I was extremely empathetic, but I don't feel like that was the norm. Like, I never felt like the way I was processed emotions was the normal way. You know? So I always felt like I was too sick. I was a highly sensitive person. That's an that's a topic for another I would definitely do a whole episode on that. so empathy, increased emotional sensitivity that allows for strong connection and understanding other feelings. I absolutely have that. I am always aware and I'm always trying to make sure people are feel included. hate thinking that someone might be left out of a situation. and, yeah, I I I have maybe a overly strong empathy skills that to to a fault almost. creative in is another one, a flair for artistic and creative endeavors, fueled by rich imagination. Well, yeah, I have a rich imagination, but can't visualize. So Speaker B [00:14:04]: interesting. Right? you can definitely have Speaker A [00:14:09]: a rich imagination and not be able to visualize. So even though Aphantasia technically means Aphan I think means lack of. Again, I should probably, like, put this in front of me and and have it in front of me, but I kinda just like rambling. But I could just like Google it and get it right. Anyways, it basically means lack of imagination, but I definitely have a very, very, I was gonna say vivid imagination, and that's not the word to describe it because it's not vivid as in, like, full of imagery, but it's vast. Speaker B [00:14:49]: maybe that's not the word either. Wait. I don't know what Speaker A [00:14:53]: the word is, but I definitely, like, think I have lot of creative ideas and and solutions and slots that play in my head that are very creative. Like, I'm always thinking of different creative projects and stuff. writing music in my head, even though I'm not Speaker B [00:15:13]: musical at all. And I've yeah. Speaker A [00:15:14]: And I always have at least three or four stories that I wanna write in my head. You know, I have this screen play in my head that I wanna get out. There's always something like that that I'm like, oh, I hope Speaker B [00:15:25]: I get some of this Speaker A [00:15:25]: out before I die because so much in me, just kinda waiting to to get out. And that's part of the reason why I started this podcast is that I have all this, like, I don't know, stuff inside of me that it's like it needs a release. So this is a way of doing that. if you feel similar to that, it's very easy to at podcasts, so go for it. And there's nothing doesn't hurt anyone. And, I'm sure your voice. Speaker B [00:15:50]: people would love to hear it. Speaker A [00:15:53]: okay. back to my list, passionate pursuits. they people with ADHD often an intense enthusiasm for activities they're passionate about, which is similar to what I was saying before. And this is so true. Like, if you're if something excites you, you're just you just wanna read all about it. You're gonna be at the library getting every book in that section. You're gonna, you know, watch every YouTube video. listen to all the podcasts about it, soaking all the information. You know, Speaker B [00:16:24]: that's totally who I am. Speaker A [00:16:25]: And, and, I feel like over time, my passions have definitely kind of wavered. Like, I've I've had different passions. And I have different, like, art projects that I start and stop and start and stop, and it kinda goes in waves. and maybe that's an ADHD thing where it's like, you don't finish something, and then you go back to it, like, because I get into a zone, like, I get into a zone of painting, and then I get into the Speaker B [00:16:53]: zone of Ericlay, and then Speaker A [00:16:54]: I go back to painting when I'm in zone. And it kinda goes back and forth, but I definitely don't just have one passion and areas of interest. Like, I've been interested in spirituality and psychic development and consciousness exploration, near death experiences, all those kind of things. I think that's been something I've I've been interested in my whole life. Like, if you if there was a psychic on a TV show, I would be watching it for sure, completely in throw and, like, wondering how they did it. And, yeah. Like, if there's a psychic, if someone's having a party with a psychic, I'm definitely buying to that. I'm doing tea leaf readings. I will do all of that. I've always found it really interesting. My first baby shower when I was seventeen, I had super young, but my mom and her best friend threw a baby shower from you with terrible readers. It's like a random memory that just came up, and, it was such a good And it's funny that that tarot reader actually read that I wasn't gonna stay with the guy I was with. Can you imagine the tarot reader? How brave that would have been? I wonder if my mom actually, like, paid the tarot reader do that. I should ask her. Like, tell her this relationship sucks and she needs to get out. that's basically what the tarot reader did. And when I read tarot now, I always try to, like, see the positive spin on something. So it's funny that that terrible reader was just like, nope. You're 8 months pregnant, but they're your dude sucks. I mean, it was true, but it's just she could have read it in a completely different way, and so I wonder. I do wonder if my Speaker B [00:18:26]: mom paid that tarot reader. Speaker A [00:18:28]: I wonder if I'll ever know that answer. I don't even know where on the list I was because I was a tangent. Okay. At adaptability. you can quickly adapt to changing situations, embrace new challenges with enthusiasm. this is me for sure. I think I'm also like a 5 energy, like, 5 life path. I like change. Like, I like I like changing direction, and I like almost like, say you missed your bus stop. I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, ah, I'd be like, okay. Well, this a new adventure that we need to figure out, you know. I I never have that, like, panic mode. I'm always like, bop, this is something that it's just a different situation, you know. Even when I have, like, lost my wallet, I'll be like, it's gonna be fine. I'll go back to the stores. It'll be there. Like, I I always have that kind of like, meh. Like, this is the way life is supposed to play out, you know. and, and, and shit's supposed to happen. Like, your car's supposed to break down sometimes, you know, and that can lead you to differences situation. So, being able to adapt to the constant changing universe around us is really important. And I think I'm definitely good at that. And, if you maybe you're really good at it and you have ADHD and you don't know Speaker B [00:19:52]: about it. And again, it's Speaker A [00:19:54]: a good thing. It's a superpower. It's not a bad thing. So, courageous risk taking. I like I the last two I'm trying to compare myself to my husband because my husband is, like, very not ADHD. Like, he is very his brain. It's, like, so structured. Like, there's no dust in there. You know? Like, everything has its place and it's all perfect. And, like, if he has a to do list, he's checking off those things. Nothing is gonna bother. And, like, nothing's gonna disrupt him. he's gonna get it, he doesn't understand when people are like, nah. Like, look, their their thoughts are scattered or they have too many ideas going on because he's like, boom, but he also, like, hates change and, like, we'll spend 3 hours trying to choose a football. you know, at the sports tour to replace the old football, and then he'll end up just buying the same football he bought before, you know. So he is adverse to change, and I'm like, bring me all the footballs. I don't play footballs, so that's a bad example, but, we're very different in that sense. Even like financially, we were doing like our front assessment with our frank financial advisor, and we do like a risk assessment. And I'm very thankful for my husband in this situation because he does the lower risk. And I'm like, high risk. And, if it was up to me well, I'm in Canada, so I don't know if you know anything about, like, the mortgage rates here in Ontario. I don't know how it is everywhere, but they are super high, and we're on a fixed mortgage rate thankfully, we were renewed a couple years ago, so we're not in that. We if we were on the variable 1, which I might have done Speaker B [00:21:39]: if I was single because I I'm Speaker A [00:21:40]: a risk taker. my mortgage I don't even know if I could afford it at this point, so I it's not even something to laugh about. It's awful. A lot of people are struggling with that. So, but, I feel like it's always good to have people in your life help balance you out. You know, I think that everybody who doesn't have ADHD needs someone with ADHD in their life and vice versa. Is it vice versa or is it vice versa? I've heard both. Let me know. courageous risk caking. Unconventional career paths. I love this because, as you may know, I recently left my, marketing job. to basically figure my own crap out. just kinda doing freelance work, but Speaker B [00:22:29]: I'm taking on a lot Speaker A [00:22:30]: of random jobs, and that's kinda what I want, and I wanna do this podcast and, eventually monetize things and build my career as I'm not even sure a spiritual coach or something with with intuition. I don't know where that's gonna land yet, but I know it's deaf land conventional. it just is. And I and the thought for me, if I'm not, like, working a 9 to 5 doing some thing I'm extremely passionate about at this point in my life. Like, in my twenties, I feel like I could do it. In my twenties, I work for like in the magazine print just print industry, And, the people surrounding me were what kept me going, but I think now as I, like, approach 40, the thought of working a 9 to 5 at a job that I am not passionate about and that I have Speaker B [00:23:21]: to take medication to just function at Speaker A [00:23:24]: is not something can continue with. I need to I need to be working. unconventionally, and I am trying to figure that as I go. And it's been working for me so far. But if you need any freelance work done, writing, design, whatever, bridging I'm available ish. I am fairly busy, but I do take on stuff. And who knows? Maybe this will get to someone out there, who needs it, and it's a perfect partnership. Who knows? energetic bursts. Whoo. This says periods of high energy that can feel fuel bursts of productivity and engagement. Absolutely. I have that. I even have energetic bursts in my conversation where I get like so excited to talk about something I'm sure you hear it in the podcast where I, like, start talking about something and my voice just kinda speeds up like a chipmunk. when I just, like, I'm excited, and I'm I just really wanna express myself. So, I I speak up a bit, but, yeah, I definitely have energetic bursts, but I also have energetic like, bursts. Like, my bubble is bursting. Like, my air balloon has got a whole poke in it, and it's slowly falling to the ground and is about to crash. and I definitely don't get that as much anymore that I've left my career, but, it was hard. And especially, when I would take the Vyvanse. So if I had, like, extremely stressful week or, like, a lot of deadlines do, and I really don't recommend this. So just because I did it does not mean that it's the right thing to do, I would take, like, vyvanse every day, and then on the weekend, I'd be like, just need to, like, eat a sandwich because I, like, couldn't even eat when I was taking it. I would go off of it on the weekend and just, like, relax. And I'd be, like, so tired and it was like, I was gobobobobo all week. And then as soon as I'd go off of it, I'm like, This is who I really am, but I need to, like, spend the day meditating and, like, decompressing because I've I don't know. I have, like, used up all of my energy reserves. perseverance, a strong determination to overcome obstacles. even faced with challenge, even when faced with challenges that might discourage others. Yeah. Yeah. I have that. Speaker B [00:25:55]: I mean, I think, Speaker A [00:25:57]: my 20s 30s were full of perseverance. I was always the one, you know, persevering. And now I'm like, I don't wanna pursue her anymore if I don't like something. I think and I think that that's what my forties are gonna be is, like, if I don't like it, I'm not doing it. I will pursue things that I enjoy. I am extremely talented at what I do. I know I'm a good designer. I know I'm a good writer. and people typically, and I don't wanna, like, again, toot my own horn, but people typically like me. you know, I go to a party or something. I am a good conversationalist. People like many people open up to me about a lot of things. and I feel where am I Speaker B [00:26:42]: getting with this? Speaker A [00:26:44]: This, see when I do this, this is my ADHD. I got into a on there. I was talking about energetic first and then perseverance. strong Oh, so in my twenties and thirties, I was I it doesn't matter. I just wanted to like, rise that la like, go up the ladder and, you know, be the best of my career. It didn't really matter. It was like, Again, I like the people I work with, but at a certain point, I'm like, this I've learned everything I can about, you know, the job that I'm doing and now I'm just doing stuff I don't like for for someone I don't like. So I feel like, for me, I could persevere only as long as I can, and then I just can't anymore. But I definitely, you know, if it was a project that I was passionate about, I'd be perse persevering the heck out of it, you know, attention detail. I would say this comes and goes for me yeah. Sometimes I'm intensely focused on, like, making sure nothing's wrong. And sometimes I'm like, oh, fuck. something's something's going to be wrong. So let's, like, get the first rammed in and, and then we can make corrections after, you know. It doesn't have to be completely perfect, the 1st round kind of thing. So I think that my attention to details faded over time. And quick learner. I'm definitely a quick learner. but especially in in, sorry. My kid's phone just rang messenger kids so annoying. It goes through my phone. It's like every time they go to do a video chat, it goes through my phone. It's so annoying. quick learner. It's so especially in areas that captivate your attention. Again, if you're not interested in it, you might not be a quick learner. This is this is a good example of, like, kids with ADHD if they're not, like, they might not be doing good in math or doing well in math or, reading or something, like, if they aren't engaged and in in if it doesn't something in them, they're just gonna be, like, out to lunch and and looking out the window and and whatever. And I'm totally the same way if I'm I a thing for me in this is probably not an ADHD thing, but I hate showing disrespect towards people. So if someone doing a presentation or something, I am fully listening. And I know, like ADHD is a lot about, like, you don't listen. You interrupt. That's not me at all. I a very good listener. I think it's very important to show respect to people, you know, giving a speech or whatever it is. it drives me crazy when you're at a people are, like, talking during speeches. Hate it. Hate that so much. Speaker B [00:29:32]: but, Speaker A [00:29:39]: I feel like oh my god. I didn't even know where Speaker B [00:29:43]: I was going with that. Speaker A [00:29:45]: This is, like, a classic classic ADHD episode, Speaker B [00:29:49]: I guess. Speaker A [00:29:56]: Quick learning, an aptitude for picking up new skills rapidly. So I've said that one already. Speaker B [00:30:00]: I don't know where I Speaker A [00:30:01]: was going with that. I'm sorry, guys. That's so annoying, but basically oh, yeah. Kids with ADHD. Speaker B [00:30:12]: they they can excel Speaker A [00:30:13]: in certain subjects and then just like really suck in other ones. So, and then this is where I think that people with ADHD like kids they they might not do so well in school, but I I feel like a lot of people with ADHD are very successful. adults because you find what you're passionate about, and then you go with that. And then you're like, Boom. This is my thing, you know. And then if you lose sight of you lose interest in that thing, you you can often, like, get enthralled in something else, right? Like, learn some a new skill. open mindfulness. I say that one of receptive receptiveness to new ideas and willingness to explore unconventional concepts I definitely love exploring unconventional concepts. Hello, psychic school podcast. Like, I love thinking about things we can't understand and, like, wondering, you know. I think I talked about I recently watched I listened to a podcast about starseeds, and this whole thing, like, I don't know if I'm a star need. It makes sense that in a past life, I might have been persecuted for having psychic abilities since Speaker B [00:31:25]: I have Aphantasia, but I don't know. I would no way Speaker A [00:31:28]: of knowing if I was a star seed unless I had some, you know, prophetic dreams about it or or some sort of travel dreams where I could experience it. But I'm open to wondering about it, you know. I'm definitely open to exploring the idea and learning more about it. What I'm not open to doing currently is, like, spending $5000 on a course to learn about my history as a star seed because I don't, resonate with that. But if it resonates with you, I Speaker B [00:31:57]: feel like that's something that Speaker A [00:31:58]: you should look into. Sorry. I'm getting interrupted. One sec. Speaker B [00:32:02]: Sorry about that. I got interrupted by daughter, story of my life. Speaker A [00:32:12]: okay. Next on the list, empowerment of others. Speaker B [00:32:16]: you have a natural inclination to support and empower the people around you. Speaker A [00:32:20]: What? How did I not see this one before? This is naturally Speaker B [00:32:25]: me. I am you know what? This this list here is just like making me feel good about myself Speaker A [00:32:34]: But this is so me, like, empowering of others. This is, like, whenever I work with people, I'm like, I want everyone to feel supported and good and feel like they're learning and growing when they're around me. and I light up when I inspire other people. So another reason why I started this podcast is like to talk, about things that inspire inspire me and, you know, magical moments that have happened to me, because I feel like these magical moments if you don't share them, they don't seem as magical. So it was, like, one of the reasons I started this podcast was to inspire. So empowerment of others, that's a good one. I like that a lot. at next one is unpredictable creativity. it says the tendency to surprise others was sudden birds of innovative ideas or projects. I feel like that's, like, more generic. clearly, we know people that need, she, are super duper creative, Speaker B [00:33:32]: and I'm missing. I mean, think of Steve Jobs. Speaker A [00:33:37]: I don't know if he was diagnosed, but I'm gonna assume was because Speaker B [00:33:41]: yeah. Also, like people who have ADHD, this is a fun fact. Speaker A [00:33:48]: you'll notice also, like, just creative people in general that a lot of creative people wear all black or, like, the same kind of all the time, and it's because, and this is, like, totally generalizing not everyone's like this, but it takes, like, so much CPU, like, brainpower to come with outfits, that if you can, like, take that process away, if you're not passionate about fashion, you can take that process away, like, then your brain isn't using up all that good juice. You're saving it for something more creative. So I think if Steve Jobs and his, like, classic blue jeans and black turtleneck kind of thing. Speaker B [00:34:23]: And I think, yeah, that's Steve Jobs. He did that because he didn't want to use any of Speaker A [00:34:27]: his creative juices towards something that didn't mean anything to him. You know? So I think that's cool. I wear a lot of black. I've only recently started to add color to my and that's, like, to add more joy, but I definitely, like, I'm I'm Speaker B [00:34:42]: a, hey. Easy get black dress for a wedding kind of thing. strong verbal skills, a gift for gab, basically, gift for communication, often expressing thoughts and ideas eloquently. Speaker A [00:34:56]: I don't know how eloquent I Speaker B [00:34:57]: am as you can see Speaker A [00:34:58]: on this podcast. I often go into tangents. I think that part of that is, like, channeling a bit. Speaker B [00:35:06]: I often will start talking. And, you know, if I I had a Speaker A [00:35:09]: conversation with someone? So on here or if I'm sending a voice note, what happens? And it happens to all of my friends. I do notes with a lot of people, and it happens with everyone. When you start talking, eventually you're gonna get to a point where you're like, I went on a tangent there, and I don't even know what I was saying. And every time I do that on the podcast, I'd go, oh, it's because I have ADHD. And I, like, do a Speaker B [00:35:34]: little make myself, but I Speaker A [00:35:36]: promise you if you are going unscripted on a voice note or a podcast or whatever, eventually you will get to a state if you have ADHD or if don't have ADHD where you're gonna go. Woah. I just talked about something totally random that I wasn't planning on talking about where did that come from? But, I feel like those moments, those, like, random tangents that you have that you just, like, say like, I don't even know why I said that. It's usually for the other person and or there's some connection there that you're gonna figure out over time. don't ignore that and, like, talk freely and, yeah, don't worry about being like, woah. It's a hard thing though. And I do it, because this is a podcast and I and maybe I should be more professional and have, like, a script or something. It would not be the same, though, for me. This is I have to just talk. but I I often, like, interrupt and say like, I don't even know what I was saying there because sometimes you talk and talk and talk and then eventually your brain just goes leave blank. So not sure if that's ADHD, but it says here that people with ADHD have strong verbal skills. I definitely think I have strong verbal skills in that I am a very good communicator. I am, like, the person Speaker B [00:37:01]: in the friend in my friend's group or like, I shouldn't say that. Speaker A [00:37:06]: all of my friends are excellent communicators. Speaker B [00:37:09]: but, like, my husband's not a great communicator, and Speaker A [00:37:13]: I'm not, like, trashing him. He's excellent in so many other ways, but, not the best communicator. So he goes, like, say we go to a party with all of his friends and my friends. At the end of the party, I know information about every single person, you know, about what they're gonna name their next dog 5 years from now. I know all this information. My husband has gotten no information other than the leaf score. You know? So But, yeah, not everyone I say has strong verbal skills, but maybe that's a ADHD characteristics. Characterist sick. I definitely have read that people with ADHD often, like, interrupt people, but I don't and I've met a lot of ADHD people who are like that who are like aloof or, like, unaware that they're not fully listening. You know, I think I said this another podcast before. There are people out there that you talk to, and you can tell when you're talking to them that they're not really listening. They're just coming with an answer in there. Like, they're trying to figure out what they're gonna say next, and that's not a real conversation. like, the the listening is important. And and I know that that that is a characteristic of a lot of ADHD people as, like, inter helping or, like, not letting people finish their thought. So if that's something that you're struggling with, Speaker B [00:38:36]: Yeah. It's just a thing, I guess. Speaker A [00:38:39]: but know that if you worry about the conversation, like, going silent for a few seconds after. People don't mind a couple seconds of silence for you, like, die guest their opinion. I think that people would prefer that over you responding to something that you have fully been receptive to. okay. Moving on. I feel like this is gonna be a really long podcast. although we are on on number 19 20, but I want to go back about Aphantasia and stuff too. So, Speaker B [00:39:15]: Change catalyst. That's interesting. they have the Speaker A [00:39:20]: ability to instigate change and inspire transformation in both personal professional spheres. Totally. Again, I said I'm a 5 energy. If you don't know your birth number, you can just Google it. it's your birthday Speaker B [00:39:33]: and your name and something, but I'm a Speaker A [00:39:35]: 5, and that's like a lot about change. when I was a kid, like, when I was a teenager, The only thing I had really control over changing was my bedroom, and I would change it all the time. Like, the configuration of it, I would always, like, change where my bed was or where my dresser was. And it's weird now, like, living. I've been married for, Speaker B [00:39:55]: I don't know, 12 years, I think. 12, 11, but living together for longer than that. Speaker A [00:40:00]: And, it's weird when you have your own space and your Speaker B [00:40:05]: own furniture and stuff. And And, like, you kinda Speaker A [00:40:09]: I don't know. Everything's in its space. We don't move furniture around a lot, but I think if I was, like, single, I'd be, like, once a month, like, rearranging furniture. I don't know what it is. It's like, I like that kind of change. Like, Speaker B [00:40:23]: Yeah. I don't know why. So change catalyst, Speaker A [00:40:30]: Yeah. And I'm also, like, really good at, like, if there's a problem to try to look at different ways of solving it instead of just being like, okay. This is the problem. This sucks. Okay. What is the what can we do about it and how can we change this? This isn't something that we need to continue with going forward. There are solutions to every problem. So, I'm I'm pretty good at, like, recognizing that and understanding that even though change is uncomfortable, it is very much important in life. So, Speaker B [00:40:57]: the next one, which is Speaker A [00:40:58]: the last one on this list is that we have a rich inner world. a vibrant internal thought process marked by constant stream of ideas and reflections. Totally. I'm always reflecting on stuff. I'm all I always have a stream of ideas. and this is where I, like, really want people to know that with Aventeja absolutely have imaginations. It's just different, and it's it's more ideas and reflection. Yeah. I like that terminology, actually. a constant stream of ideas and reflections. That's like If there was a song title for my shower every day, Speaker B [00:41:35]: it would be constant stream of ideas and reflections. It would be a good little ditty. I, yeah, I have a lot Speaker A [00:41:44]: of ideas and reflections. I'm always, like, especially, like, with problems. I I try to look at it, like, what, Speaker B [00:41:53]: why is this happening? How is it gonna benefit me? What's the outcome of this? Speaker A [00:41:59]: like, we're really reflecting on, especially the negative things because you would be really surprised to see all the positive outcomes that come from negative situations because negative situations spark change, typically, and you can't better yourself without, you know, evolving and changing and growing and learning. And a lot of growth comes from pain and tragedy and whatnot. So Okay. I'm just Speaker B [00:42:27]: one second. Sorry about that. Okay. So Speaker A [00:42:35]: I wanted to talk now that I went through the 2020. 20, they'll run characteristics. And I know that there's more. but I wanted to talk about, like, the core between ADHD, Aphantasia, and psychic abilities, just to see, get the conversation going. And if you can come up with other correlations, please feel free email me, my email is rofocreative@gmail.comorsecixschoolpodcast@gmail.com. Speaker B [00:43:04]: I will or both emails. but if you have anything to say Speaker A [00:43:07]: on this matter, I am sure I'm leaving stuff out Speaker B [00:43:09]: and I might do a follow-up episode on it, but, I'd love to Speaker A [00:43:12]: hear from So ADHD in correlation in connection with Avantagion psychic abilities. Okay. So Aphantasia and ADHD. Let's talk about that. So with Afoundage, you'll see an inability to visualize mental images, but also for many people, it's not just realizing. It's like 55 senses. Right? So you can't smell, you can't see, you can't hear, you can't taste in your mind, and, A lot of people can't do that. So, even people who don't characterize themselves as people with Aphantasia, But for me, like, I don't have any of my senses in my mind. So, so what I've read is that Achinacea might have some correlation with ADHD, basically, because both conditions involve differences in cognitive processing and attention. So it doesn't doesn't really say much on it. Like, there's no, Speaker B [00:44:09]: I think, maybe because advantageous is so, Speaker A [00:44:14]: It's not studied a ton. Right? It's like 2 2015 is when it really became Speaker B [00:44:19]: noticed, but like, became a thing and became studied more, but think about how recent that is. You know? Speaker A [00:44:28]: I would love to be part of any sort of study, any sort of mutation on people with Aphantasia and ADHD or both or either or whatever. because there's so much we don't know. Right? Speaker B [00:44:42]: okay. So let's think about unconventional thinking and psychic abilities. Speaker A [00:44:50]: some people have said that ADHD related unconventional thinking patterns might be linked to enhanced intuition or psychic abilities. So, boo, yeah, So if you're thinking, okay, most people don't think this way, well, maybe maybe most people aren't getting information the Speaker B [00:45:10]: same way because you are tuned into course, you're getting intuitive downloads. Maybe. Maybe. Speaker A [00:45:16]: I definitely have this, but I don't know what other people's brains Do other people have these, like, full downloads that kind of plop into their head, or is that an unconventional thinking pattern. Speaker B [00:45:28]: I don't know. so this idea stems from Speaker A [00:45:32]: the unique ways in which ADHD individuals process information. and make connections. So one of my superpowers of having ADHD, which I don't know if it's an ADHD superpower or just like an intuitive superpower is that I'm able to easily process information and make connections to, like, past events and past situations. So, unconventional. Unconventional, yes, maybe, I guess. I don't the thing that Another part of the reason why I started this podcast is like, I only know my own brain, and I think my brain is pretty normal, you know, but when you start talking to other people and you learn about how they visualize or how they, like, get ready for a trip. Oh, you you went on a trip and you packed your bags and you couldn't visualize what was in your bags. What? You know? these are the the comments I get. Like, my brain is different than other people's brain, and I've only ever known the way my brain works. And the way my brain works is I get full down It's like a CD ROM downloaded into my oh, I had with all this information. And if I don't use that information, like, quickly, it kinda, like, fades away. but that's how, like, ideas come in. Speaker B [00:46:45]: So, you know, I feel like I could be Speaker A [00:46:48]: just like working at a company and and giving ideas for inventions. Like, that would be my ideal job because I, like, have so many ideas is. so, yeah, unconventional thinking, Speaker B [00:47:01]: creativity and psychic intuition, that's another thing. Like, Speaker A [00:47:05]: creative thinking, is often associated with ADHD and could potentially overlap with the intuitive thinking associated with psychic abilities. This might result in a unique blend of Speaker B [00:47:15]: imagination imaginative insights. I like that. And I also think that, like, creativity and psychic intuition is connected in the way that Speaker A [00:47:26]: the more creative you are and the more you practice, like, art. it doesn't matter what kind of art. but that helps you, it helps you process your intuition kind of. and and you be it you'd be surprised at how much, like, meditative information comes to you when you're, like, painting, I will or, like, I do air clay, and I I just be like making a ball with airclay and moving it around in my hands. And the process of doing Speaker B [00:48:05]: that, like, turns my brain Speaker A [00:48:06]: off and I get intuitive information, and I I swear that's like psychic information in it. And the majority of of my psychic information comes from while I paint or do art. so I think there is like a connection there. So if you're if you're listening to Speaker B [00:48:21]: this and you're like, I wanna develop my psychic skills, And you're like, I'm not an artist. Try just painting nothing. You know? Get black and white and just paint You don't you would have to use colors if you don't want to. Like, just paint Speaker A [00:48:36]: or doodle. Less is what Tyler Henry does. He just, like, doodles. Right? And that helps his brain, like, unlock, like, the one side of Speaker B [00:48:43]: his brain. I think this is Speaker A [00:48:44]: what happens. It your I think your left side on, like, stops working, basically, or it gets consumed by that the process of doing art doodling or painting or using air clay. And then that helps you connect to this side of your brain that the intuitive information kinda goes to. So creativity and psychic intuition, I think definitely connected. open mindfulness and psychic perception. ADHD individuals often have open minds. See, how can you listen to this and not be people with ADHD are freaking awesome. everybody likes an open minded person. Whoever said, oh, I love that guy. He's so close minded. I don't. I no. so open mindedness and psychic perception, ADHD individuals often have open minds and are receptive to unconventional ideas. again. Obviously, I love that. I hate convention. This trait trait might be might contribute to heightened perceptions of psychic phenomenon. that's that's very true too. Like, I I think the more open minded you are to psychic abilities, like, psychic phenomena, the more it will happen to you because if you're like, this is impossible, there's no way a dead person can talk to me. There's way, that balloon can move on its own. Like, whatever it is, there there's no way. If you go into it being, like, black and white, there's absolutely no way, then it's never gonna happen for you. Speaker B [00:50:13]: But if you go into situations being like, what if, you know, going into situations with Speaker A [00:50:21]: wonder will liter literally change your life. Speaker B [00:50:24]: You know? So And I don't know if that's a switch you Speaker A [00:50:26]: can turn on. I think that part of what makes me unique and part of what makes me meet is that I am so full of wonder, and I have been since I was a kid. So, yeah, I I I think that I'm very open to psychic perception and psychic phenomena. I, you know, if my my, fire alarm my house starts going off and there's no fire, I just immediately say, hi. Hi. Super homie. Like, I I think that it's my dead grandmother. You know? And then maybe it's just the batteries, but I don't know. I believe. I believe. And I I experience things more often than not. I think because I have that openness. Speaker B [00:51:13]: and I'm not I, Speaker A [00:51:13]: like, I definitely am not closed off. Like, I'm like, open me more. I do meditations to, like, open up by 3rd eye because it's so cool. The more it opens up, the cooler life is. So, Speaker B [00:51:27]: attention to detail. I don't even like this one. it says, but, okay, contrary to the stereotype, individuals with ADHD can sometimes there's the sometimes word exhibit intense focus and attention to detail, which might play a Speaker A [00:51:41]: role in the development of psychic abilities. Oh, this is actually interesting. See, I didn't read the whole thing. This is, like, part of my ADHD. I skim things. yeah. You know what is interesting about that is that I am so passionate about learning about developing my my psychic abilities and just learning about consciousness and trying to learn about everything that we don't know about. Like, the things that we really don't have concrete answers to. Speaker B [00:52:10]: one second. Alright. sorry about that. Another interruption. I'm down 2 kids today, so I only have 2. But, yeah, they still like, attention and, interrupting podcasts. So sorry about that. I talked about the attention to detail. Speaker A [00:52:36]: one thing that I wanted to say was, so I didn't really get into, like, a half and ADHD too much because there's really not a lot out there. But I do wonder if we Speaker B [00:52:47]: with appendage if you don't have the ability to visualize. Speaker A [00:52:50]: And you're in class, for example, Are you not less distracted? Like, would you not be more focused than, like, someone Speaker B [00:53:01]: like, I feel like having Speaker A [00:53:04]: a vivid imagination where you, like, see things might be distracting in Speaker B [00:53:07]: a way. So maybe in a sense, having Aphantasia helps Speaker A [00:53:12]: with the ADHD because there's less distractible things. You know? like, the ability to imagine might deter me from focusing. Speaker B [00:53:26]: I don't know. I'd be interested hear of from anyone who has been diagnosed with ADHD, who has a a Speaker A [00:53:33]: Aphantasia, or if you don't and you, like, listen to this podcast like. pretty sure have all those Speaker B [00:53:39]: characteristics. What's next? Feel free to email me. I don't think that if you have ADHD, especially as an adult female. Speaker A [00:53:51]: Or if you're listening to this in your mail, I'm not, like, you know, knocking you. It's just that this is, like, specifically for females, but it could also relate to you. So don't, if you're a male in your resonating with this. Speaker B [00:54:04]: Just resonate with you. It's okay. I think that if you have lived your whole life and you've you know, been successful Speaker A [00:54:16]: or, thrived, then who cares about the label? You know? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. And, honestly, if you have to take pills, to get through your day because your job is so awful that you need to take medication to function throughout your say it's probably time for a career change. and I know that's Speaker B [00:54:40]: not always an option, Speaker A [00:54:41]: and it's not always easy to land. I know a job that is, you know, I don't know. Key that keeps you completely engaged and enthralled, but because you have this power of being able to hyperfocus and being able to, like, come up with creative solutions and be incredible in every way. I think you do have the opportunity to look for a job. that you can flourish in instead of having to pop Vyvanse to, get through your day. So Just if you're listening to this and you feel really, like, Speaker B [00:55:12]: connected to it and, whatever. One second. Speaker A [00:55:17]: I'm gonna get interrupted again. So if you feel like this podcast kind of resonated with you in a way and you're like, yeah. That sounds like me. I totally have ADHD. I'm also a psychic, and I have ostentation. Like, all of these things Speaker B [00:55:32]: chill out. Sorry. when people say chill out, but don't worry about it. Speaker A [00:55:37]: You don't need to go and get a diagnosis. You don't need to get medication. You don't have to do anything. just lean into what you're passionate about. And I think I really believe that if we all did this, the world would be way better. I mean, imagine if everyone like, following their passions and doing things that they loved, especially people who are, like, hyper focused and, you know, can, accomplish so much with their when they love what they do. you know, the world would be a lot less grumpy. and we'd have a lot more problems solved. Speaker B [00:56:14]: And, yeah, I feel Speaker A [00:56:16]: like everyone would just be better if we kinda leaned into our trade or our skills and our passions and, what lights us up. So is that being intuitive? Is that having ADHD. Speaker B [00:56:30]: I don't know, but I think that everyone ADHD or not can benefit from leaning into their passions instead of instead of fearing them, I think. Speaker A [00:56:44]: I think we fear chasing our dreams because we're worried about failing. And I don't know when you're when you're when something lights you up and and you follow that? I I just I don't think there's there's really room for failure. I don't like failure is part of it. I think that every step in that process of discovering yourself is, Speaker B [00:57:13]: is action and not failure. Like, even if you Speaker A [00:57:16]: fail at something, it's just like a a step that's helped you learn and and succeed in the future. So my public statement today is lean into what you're passionate about. Accept your ADHD as Speaker B [00:57:30]: a superpower, accept that you're intuitive, and, don't Speaker A [00:57:35]: be close minded. Nobody likes close minded people. Promisey that. and, Speaker B [00:57:41]: yeah, ADHD is not a Speaker A [00:57:42]: bad thing. It's a wonderful thing. It's a incredible thing. And if you have kid with ADHD who's struggling, that struggle will dissipate over time. Speaker B [00:57:52]: I think that you kind of feel like you're Speaker A [00:57:55]: I don't know. Like, on you're living outside of your body almost, and I think that over time Speaker B [00:58:01]: that that kind of phase and ADHD adults is very different. Speaker A [00:58:06]: I think for male and females, but especially female when you get older, Speaker B [00:58:11]: you Speaker A [00:58:11]: know, a lot of people think of ADHD is, like, that crazy boy in the class who dumps a can of soup on his head at lunchtime. and then runs around in circles and is really loud. Speaker B [00:58:23]: you know, people who are hyperactive. Speaker A [00:58:26]: I feel like ADHD is there's a hyper opponent there. For me, the hyper is the hyperfocus, not the hyperactivity. And my son's like that too. I wouldn't say he has a but he's not a hyperactive person. he likes to Speaker B [00:58:40]: be moving and stuff, but he's not, like, hyper Speaker A [00:58:45]: but he doesn't get hyper focused on on really weird things. Like, he gets hyper focused on creating. And I feel like Speaker B [00:58:50]: this might be, like, autistic too, but he will like, cut Speaker A [00:58:56]: up paper for hours and then make them into money. I think he I think it's his way of try to manifest, which I love. And, I'm also like, money isn't everything, but, Speaker B [00:59:09]: his stacks of paper mail money in his room that he just, like, that's he hyper focuses on that a lot. It's weird. But, Speaker A [00:59:17]: who knows? Maybe he'll for the Canadian Mint when he's older and create money. Speaker B [00:59:21]: Who knows? but, Speaker A [00:59:24]: if you have a child with ADHD, just know they're gonna be successful in life. Who cares their grades right now. just lean into what they're passionate about. If they if they want to explore something totally wacko and weird, let them. It lights them up. the whole point of life is to be lit up, I think, and to understand when you Speaker B [00:59:43]: are filled with light, Speaker A [00:59:46]: you know, so you can recognize those moments. Speaker B [00:59:49]: I think that's it Speaker A [00:59:50]: for now. That's like a whole hour episode, which is insane feel like that's my longest episode. I hope you enjoyed it. And if you have any input about this subject, please feel free email me. I would love to talk more about it, if there's more to talk about. So Have a wonderful day, and I hope to hear from you.